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Honestly black and white photography is something that's very challenging for me. Both of the photos that you mention were originally shot in color, and I converted them in PSE-7.
I've been playing around with a lot of my old color photos, and most of them don't convert well to b/w at all. I was really hesitant to even post these at first, as most of my gallery is so bright with color. Maybe too bright !
It is possible to set my Canon to record in b/w, and then there's the issue of recording a RAW image instead of a JPEG. I've haven't really tried either of these routes, and need to quit being lazy